How To: Starter Clutch Renovation / Rotor Removal

zaphoid18

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Hi guys,

Through a recent minor screw up which I will detail later I had to remove my rotor and starter clutch again, this time I thought to document it.

If you are pushing your starter button and can hear the starter spin and chain rattle behind the alternator case but its not grabbing the engine, your starter clutch is likely damaged.

Step 1
Drain the oil out of the engine for simplicity (this step may not be necessary but you will lose some oil out of the left case when removing the alternator cover)

Step 2
remove the left foot pedal, shift lever and clutch plate cover. Now remove the alternator cover carefully and watch to see that the gasket comes away cleanly and is not torn during removal.

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Step 3
stop engine from turning by placing a suitable metal screwdriver or rod through the rotor and brace it against some wood. Remove the rotor bolt with a 17mm socket.

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Step 4

Insert the "yamaha rotor extractor tool" into the exposed threads being careful not to cross thread the bolt. The bolt is a 16mm x 1.5 pitch right hand thread and can be purchased from parts n more for 9 dollars under the "tools" tab.

The general feeling i've gathered from everyone online and common sense is DO NOT use a 2 or 3 arm puller to get the rotor off. It may work but you risk damaging the case, best to use the right tool for the job :twocents:.

Before tightening the removal bolt the engine must be stopped from turning in the opposite direction since you will be tightening the bolt to pop off the rotor

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Step 5
keep tightening and the rotor will pull itself from its tapered shaft

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DO NOT loose the woodruff key, its a little half moon piece that acts as a guide for the rotor on installation

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My Screw up that called for this

I pulled the rotor from a parts bike I had and the starter clutch was intact so instead of disassembling it I just put it on my bike I mean hey they were the same right...wrong

As I found out when attempting to set the timing on my bike 1979 XS400 (points) there was no RF line now :doh: the rotors are different between points and electronic ignition

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Just good to know :laugh:

Step 6 (the actual starter clutch)

looking in the clutch you will be able to see the rollers that grab the engine and turn it during starting. (though if you've gotten this far something is likely broken and they've already fallen out)

Starter clutch kits are available online with new rollers, caps, and springs

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If they haven't fallen out there are little holes in the side of the starter clutch that can be used to push out the roller, cap and spring with a stiff piece of wire

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What breaks is likely the spring. Unfortunately the best system at the time used for starting our beasts was apparently the springs from ballpoint pens :shrug:

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Step 7

Use a small screwdriver to compress the spring and cap so you can slip the roller into position

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Step 8

When reinstalling the rotor onto the tapered shaft you will need to rotate it counterclockwise to get the rollers to engage and enter the starter clutch, Then insert the bolt and tighten it to 3-3.5kg m (22-25lb ft) It may be necessary to stop the engine once again as previously done

Step 9

Ideally install a new gasket and replace the alternator, clutch plate cover, shift lever and footpeg.

REPLACE ENGINE OIL :D

Step 10

Enjoy starting with the push of a button :thumbsup:
 
If we are looking to save weight, will permanent removal of the starter assembly be feasible? Or does the clutch have a role similar to a flywheel and permanent removal will cause more harm than good.
 
I have removed my starter clutch as well as the entire starter setup with no issues:thumbsup: Btw the starter clutch weighs 2lbs:)
 
zaphoid18,

where did you order your kit from? I am having some trouble locating one.... I need the spring and the cap...

Thanks.
 
well that would explain why my starter is acting up lol i think my clutch unit is toasted i went to start it today and it started to crank and the made a god awful noise and then just spins no cranking
 
Chris - digging though here regarding issues I'm having and noticed your "I've done away with my electric starter altogether" comment. How'd you go about doing that? Mine won't start and it looks like the starter clutch chain is slipping as it's causing the assembly to spin. If I can get away with just a kick-start, I'd be happy as a clam!
 
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