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Petew XS400 brat scrambler build

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by Petew, Jun 14, 2017.

  1. spectra

    spectra XS400 Junkie Top Contributor

    Woo Hoo get that thing on the road..................
     
  2. Jeff0133

    Jeff0133 XS400 Junkie Top Contributor

    ....what do you mean by flasher?...the actual signal light or the relay?
     
  3. Petew

    Petew XS400 True Believer Top Contributor

    I replaced the relay with a 2 prong LED specific one...it is adjustable they say. I will try that today.
     
  4. Jeff0133

    Jeff0133 XS400 Junkie Top Contributor

    Oh...my led relay is 3 pronged...works great...I wouldn't know about wiring in a 2 pronged one...but electrics are not my forte
     
  5. Petew

    Petew XS400 True Believer Top Contributor

    I had read many on here talking 2 prong...I guess a 3 prong may be a better choice...we'll see.
     
  6. BBS360

    BBS360 XS400 Guru Top Contributor

    The terminals on the new flasher relay probably don't match the stock connector. Should just be a matter of rearranging the wires/connectors in the stock connector. I think mine had ground/+ swapped.

    Edit: A three-prong also will not work right away. The third terminal on the stock connector goes to the auto-canceller, which won't work with a non-stock relay. Remove the auto-canceller and the third pin goes nowhere, so a three-pin still won't work.
    It'd be an easy fix to make a three-pin work too. Just jumper the third pin's wire in the auto-canceller connector to the ground wire in the same connector.
     
  7. Petew

    Petew XS400 True Believer Top Contributor

    My blinkers seem to work on first start up and then stop after I switch from one side to the other. I have LED relay in it. Any ideas?
     
  8. Jeff0133

    Jeff0133 XS400 Junkie Top Contributor

    Check the handlebar switch, bad connection or something...clean and the use dielectric grease.
     
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  9. Petew

    Petew XS400 True Believer Top Contributor

    Thanks Jeff, I'll give a look. So far I am not sold on these LED lights. They seem a pain to me. I am looking for incandescent options.
     
  10. spectra

    spectra XS400 Junkie Top Contributor

    What don't you like about the LED lights? I love the ones I have on mine.
     
  11. Petew

    Petew XS400 True Believer Top Contributor

    Cannot get them ironed out
     
  12. Petew

    Petew XS400 True Believer Top Contributor

    They don't blink sometimes, don't work at all others. I love the look but they're pissing me off.
     
  13. spectra

    spectra XS400 Junkie Top Contributor

    Well that sounds like a bad relay or if its here and there a bad connection somewhere. LEDs are great a lot of light from a little diode.
     
  14. Petew

    Petew XS400 True Believer Top Contributor

    I don't know. I took a working system, replaced the original incandescents, replaced the relay with a special LED relay, and this is where I sit. The blinkers will often work on first startup. Once I click to the other side, regardless of side, they often stop and won't do anything again. I have continuity and great body ground at all 4 lamps. It has me puzzled. Maybe I will attempt another relay before I scrap them altogether.
     
  15. BBS360

    BBS360 XS400 Guru Top Contributor

    What did you end up doing with the auto-canceller?
     
  16. Petew

    Petew XS400 True Believer Top Contributor

    Nothing yet,moved to another bike for a while
     
  17. BBS360

    BBS360 XS400 Guru Top Contributor

    If it's still installed that's probably the source of your problems.
     
  18. Petew

    Petew XS400 True Believer Top Contributor

    Where is it located?
     
  19. BBS360

    BBS360 XS400 Guru Top Contributor

    Up high between the carbs and battery box. Rectangular looking thing.
    It works by controlling the ground wire at the flasher relay connector. Not sure with your 2 pin flasher relay but double-check in the flasher relay connector whether you're using the Yellow/Green wire. If you are it needs to be rewired from going to the auto-canceller to go straight to ground.
     
  20. Petew

    Petew XS400 True Believer Top Contributor

    I have already tried to add the ground without any luck. I am going to try another flasher. I think my auto cancelled has been removed but I will look thanks!
     

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