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rewire how to

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by drewpy, Aug 11, 2011.

  1. drewpy

    drewpy Excess twin

    well folks, started the rewire tonight and will add the stages as and when I complete them. If I do it this way, I can remember what I did rather than trust my crap memory.

    this is for my tracker without starter, indicators and with an ignition relocation.

    Plan

    This is the most important stage of any rewire, plan! boring I know, but absolutley necessary.

    first make sure you have all the bits on your bike, no good if the engine is in london and the frame in holland. get it built!

    1. make out a shopping list in excel, what size of wire, how long and what is its job and how is it going to be protected from the elements and will it look good too?

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    I use vehicle wiring products for everything, saves on postage. this stage took 3 weeks to do. there are 2 types of wire, the older stuff which is thicker per amp rating and the thinwall stuff which, as the name suggests, has a high performance PVC insulation so making the wires thinner, thus lighter and easier to hide!

    to work out what you need size wise you calculate watts divide by Volts = amps, don't forget that volts can drop on a bike so I allowed 10volts in the calculation as a buffer.

    after sizes you need to keep to a colour scheme. The original one is the best and will help to identify and problem solve further on in the rewire. There are also tracer wires which, when 2 colours are given, the first is the main colour and the second is the tracer or coloured line of the wire.

    2. layout

    you need a layout of the proposed wiring loom and the best way to do that is make a layout board.

    this gives the length and width of the bike's frame and allows you to visualise the layout and route of your proposed wiring.

    here's mine;

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    i stuck labels on the board indicating the actual device to be wired and any obstructions there. That way the length of wire can be calculated more acuratley.

    If anything is lower or higher or wider than the board, I add a label , say what the device is and write + 80mm for example!

    first componant

    I started with the alternator wiring first, I think its the trickier part of wiring and its full of oily mess etc.

    first things first, you need tools

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    wire snips, some insulating tape, scissors, soldering iron with solder and flux, heat gun for shrink sleeves and wire strippers.

    after measuring what I needed, I used yellow tinned thinwall in 1.5mm which equals 21 amps. its more or less the same as the original, but tinned wall is soldered right along the whole length of the wire and is inpervious to water and oil etc so it should last in the environment near that front sprocket!:thumbsup:

    I started on the stator first. i snipped the wires and degreased using some carb cleaner I had lying around. the wires go through the rubber grommet then you thread on a piece of shrink wrap.

    I then fluxed both ends and splayed them out a bit ( you don't want to join it side to side as there isn't much room nestling in the cover) the ends were brought together and solder applied.

    I did this for 3 connections, the 4th one is redundant so i just cut it and added a shrink tape on end to leave it terminating within the grommet.

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    did the field coil the same way as the stator.

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    this picture shows the stator in the cover and you can see why i needed to make sure the wires didn't over lap

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    the finished article.

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    the neutral wire was measured from the field coil as per original and I used shrink wrap and PVC tubing, both before and after the neutral wire.

    when you get long length of wires, every 500mm just put a bit of insulating tape there to stop a tangled mess. I used PVC covering on these with shrink tape on each end to stop any ingress of water etc.

    next is ignition wire to switched live distribution, but I'm waiting for a crimper to come from a friend to start that.

    that's all for now folks :D
     
  2. redratbike

    redratbike XS400 Addict

    Looking forward to this
     
  3. leedutcher

    leedutcher xsive to the bone!!!

    great right up so far drewpy! i to will be watching this as well.
     
  4. frwinks

    frwinks XS400 Addict

    wowza...sticky fer sure mister:thumbsup:
    cheers
     
  5. drewpy

    drewpy Excess twin

    2a continued

    I mentioned the layout board previously, so the next stage is to get out your notes, wiring diagram and some masking tape.

    for this stage you need to work modular, which means you take each componant separately or your head will spin :D

    I did the longest wires first and decided on the routes they will take.

    For my rewire, the lighting system is going down the left side, the ignition, brake wires and earth lead down the middle. This way, if I have any issues at least I only need to tear into one part of the loom and not compromise all of it.

    Here are some pictures of wires on the layout board, don't forget work on each component at a time.

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    I came to realise early on that the main lamp switch will be carrying some amps and this wasn't anticipated!

    The relays will use the switching part only on low amp cable.

    I need to get 1.5 mm tinned thinwall (21 amps) for the main switch!:doh:

    I first use masking tape to layout the wiring and used the same to write on each wire end what's it for, where's it come from. for example; live feed to brake switch.

    wrap the wires as you go, masking tape is easy to tear so you can undo/redo as many times as you need.

    where a wire leaves the loom, wrap masking tape there, eventually I will use a strip of insulation tape to secure this.

    don't put any connections on at all!!

    you will need to

    1. double check that the loom fits the bike (phsyically check it)

    2. PVC wrap or tubing needs to go on in small lengths due to wires exiting along the loom

    3. don't forget to put heatshrink tubing on too

    a few more pikkies of the board

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    I need to wait now till i get the new cable, then I'll used duck tape (100mph jeep tape) to secure semi temporarily then offer the loom up to the bike.

    next I'll use insulation tape on loom junctions then heatshrink and PVC/ braided tubing to protect the loom.

    :thumbsup:
     
  6. drewpy

    drewpy Excess twin

    part 3: frame fit

    finally got the extra cable and completed the loom layout. The next job is to offer the bare loom to the frame to make sure that the wire breakouts are at the correct position and it fits.

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    after checking the route and layout on the frame, I marked any changes by using the insulating tape on each breakout and significant change on the loom, EG the start of braid.

    bring the loom back indoors and now this was the hardest part of the rewire!

    accept you will cock this bit up, I spent all day threading PVC tube over the wires, only to realise that I should have put heatshrink tubing on or tape.

    start from the middle of the loom outwards :D

    there will be places where you cannot put any tubing on, and this is where you use the non adhesive PVC tape.
    Start this from the middle outwards as the wires become taught and some start to ride up. Don't worry about this as all you have to do is undo the insulating tape at the end and rebunch the wires together! (that's if you started from the middle of the loom)

    wrap the tape really tight and it will look the dogs, finish off with some heat shrink tubing at the end.

    Be really patient with this and take your time, have regular breaks etc.

    hope fully it will look something like this

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    Looks like nothing doesn't it?

    It bleeding took 4 hours to do :laugh:

    still the eye is in the detail and I pretty stoked it turned out as I hoped

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    next job is to connect all the components with bullets, spades and solder!

    Part 4 is when I get the crimp tool
     
  7. drewpy

    drewpy Excess twin

    Been crimping, and It takes a while to get the hang of it.

    the best way to crimp with solder is to put your shrinktubing or insulator on, dip the bared wire in some solder and them crimp it on.

    Always use uninsulated connectors as they stay on


    then using the soldering iron, warm up the wire/connector till the solder fizzes then let in some solder.

    leave to cool. :thumbsup:

    I think it best to do the rewire in stages and take your time. There's many a time when, if i'd gone and done the next stage that it would have been wrong. So take your time if you are a newb at this!


    as an aside, i have mounted some microswitches as part of the lever bodies. These activate relays in the bike's rear!


    I had a problem of isolating them from the elements, so I went on a tour of Maplins (radio shack) and found some micro toggle switch covers. I pulled the rubber part off the metal body and fitted that to the switch

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    the next problem was how to keep it there. I used silicone at first, but it didn't take. I even used super glue...nah!:(

    I hit upon the idea of using shrink tubing.

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    a quick blast on the hot air gun and looks the dogs dangly's

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    not much to do now except finish the connectins and test the circuits :bike:
     
  8. redratbike

    redratbike XS400 Addict

    cute switches

    keep it coming Drew..much appreciated
     
  9. drewpy

    drewpy Excess twin

    the final result

    I finally got round to finishing the front lamps off today. looking at what Daddio did to his,it occured to me that I need to cover all the coloured wires black!!

    So I still have the colour system, the only problem is you can't see it till its cut!

    this had to be done as multicoloured wiring on show does not look good. Anyway here is the final result.

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    I have soldered all the wires togther for neatness and used black nylon over braid. I used this because you can "gather" it to one side in order to complete the soldering. Don't forget to melt the end to stop fraying and put a couple of short shrink tube on the braid so you can seal the ends up. I also shrink tubed the joints by threading a smaller shrink tube right inside the braid and picking it forward to cover the finished joint!

    anyhow, here is the main wiring under the seat. It has to be less than 25mm high for the seat to fit

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    and a side view, just showing the reg/rectifier under the pan

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    well that's all there is to it!!

    take your time, test and ponder the next 2 moves. treat it like a game of chess and you can't go wrong!!
     
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  10. leedutcher

    leedutcher xsive to the bone!!!

    looks SICK DREWPY!!!!! u sir diserve a electrical guru status.... dont wory friend from the over the pond im learning my 2 cent too....
     
  11. am i the only one who re-read this just to get a sneak peak of close-ups of drewpys bike? lol. i like the headlight ears turned and used as a mount gor the vertical lights. just sayin :) great write up, great bike.:thumbsup:
     
  12. chkm8

    chkm8 XS400 Student

    You're not the only one. It's like hearing about your friend's ultrahot girl and never seeing her so you try to drop by unexpectedly just so you know she's real. :D
     
  13. drewpy

    drewpy Excess twin

    you not seen it all yet guys, the clutch window works a treat, just got it insured for £2K agreed value.

    waiting for decent weather for the pictures (not this week, its pissing down for the next 4 days)

    watch this space........well not this one, but another thread :D
     
  14. damn it drewpy. make a build thread like normal people. or at least send me update pics so i can expand them and put posters above my bed. mmmmmmmm...... drewpy's tracker.... your so trick....
     
  15. XS400D

    XS400D Carb Fiddling Enthusiast


    in this picture i see that you are using the hoses that should connect to the air boxes to go to pods. do you find they are rigid enough to keep everything in place or did you have to run some braces or supports?
     
  16. drewpy

    drewpy Excess twin

    the hose to the breather chamber on the engine keeps them ridgid. so far they've stayed in place!
     
  17. leedutcher

    leedutcher xsive to the bone!!!

    wheres your crank case breather? did u just run a small filter on the tube or did u connect it to the the those hoses?
     
  18. Travis

    Travis Staff Member Staff Member

    Excellent write-up Drewpy! :thumbsup:
     
  19. drewpy

    drewpy Excess twin

    @lee,The hose setup is standard
    @travis thanks man hope its useful to others.

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