2eightcustoms
XS400 Enthusiast
madpressdog, the stator on the 400 is surrounded by oil, the stator conversion (pma) on a 650 is dry can u use a 650 pma for the conversion or will it being submurged in oil not work?
Couldn't the rotor be replaced with a permanent magnet type (maybe one of them rare earth mags), and so allow one to not have to do all the fancy mods here? Just thinking that since we've already got a brush-less 3-phase stator, putting a new one in seems redundant to me. If that worked, you would only need to make sure to buy a regulator that can handle the power!
Sorry 2eight don't know much about that system for the 650madpressdog, the stator on the 400 is surrounded by oil, the stator conversion (pma) on a 650 is dry can u use a 650 pma for the conversion or will it being submurged in oil not work?
Rob the ignition timing cover Pointer has to be removed the engine can stay in the bike drain go to the first part of this chat look at the pictures you can see how the timing cover is clearance for the new stater do a little legwork before you ask questions fastI just may try this - but I'll have to wait until I get my generator cover off.. Never serviced these motors before so I've got a lot to learn... Should I be draining the oil? Can I do this with the motor in the bike? What all do I have to take off?? Looks like the ignition timing cover, chain cover and then finally the generator cover can come off...
My current worry, the stator is measuring open circuit...
i did this same thing with the xs650 pma kit works amazing!!! ihad to machine the cover to fit the rotoe and drill and tap holes onto my cases to hold the stator plate i dont have cnc drawings but i do have an extra cover you could use to measure so you dont have any downtime with your bike
Why? Over 2 years later and you are asking why people didn't question him? Most of the people who participated in this thread no longer participate here. You likely won't be getting any answers. It is rare for people to stick around here for more than a year or 2.
On the other hand, there are a few who have been here for many years and thousands of posts...
I've been trying to get this done for ever but keep hitting hurdle after hurdle. The banshee flywheel doesn't fit the rotor and do I need a battery and tci box bc threw everything outO this mod is kick only no starter on this one.
Any updates on this? I've got an 81 XS400 with a similar charging issue and I'm looking to ditch the battery all together. Seems like the charging system in this model is a common cause of headaches. Do you have pics of it completed? or a forum of your step by step progress? would love to learn more!Ok its charging like new no even better. Now at idel reads 12.8v When reved ,sorry no tac jumps up to 14.7volts and the lights are nice and bright. Right now i still have a battery but plan to switch to a small capassitor.this banshee setup on the xs400 is eazy to do > I just followed the steps to XS650 SWAP trimming the cover down was the hard part.
the part list was
banshee flywheel----------$100
stator--------------------$ 20
3 phase ref/reg-----------$ 42 (hughs handbuilt)
this is better then sliced bread
the web page i got the most out of was choptemberhow to xs650 banshee charging sys. swap here are a fu pic's
Hey guys thinks for all the in put . I been doing a little home work on banshee. The stator is used in alot of bikes. The plan is to go battery less. Find one guy xs400 banshee rotor and stator setup. Said it works find, that's all he says. I don't thank he tried to fit it in the stock cover but Im going to try.
Dose the rotor fit the crank?
Dose it fix in the stock cover?
How to mount the stator ?
I'm going to find out
I love that your thinking of modding the charging system to make it better but are you sure your previous system was working correctly? Is your bike stock with all electronics still there? If so then I would keep a battery just so you have a reserve. If it's not stock and you have less accessories then you could probably save just as much space by building a mini 12v battery. The only reason I stress on having a battery is that if there is any electricity produced it must be used up, if not it could fry something. If you plan on going with no battery and your charging system spikes, or if your diodes in the rectifier decide to quit and produce AC voltage the battery will take those hits for you instead of your components. I say carry out your mod but think twice about going with no battery. Good luck!