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Igintion problem

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by Scorpio1963, Apr 9, 2014.

  1. arfstrom

    arfstrom XS400 Guru Top Contributor

    Clutch switch light? Which one is that? Do you have a pic of it?

    In case I lose internet, I will be back when I am able.
     

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  2. Scorpio1963

    Scorpio1963 XS400 Guru Top Contributor

    Guess the site was down for a bit I couldn't get on.Anyways the clutch switch light is in the middle of instrument cluster where the head light ,oil are when you turn the key.Its green when it lights up.I didn't get a chance to take the pic of of the silcon job the po did cause its in the harness not solenoid.Its a very thin wire and feels like its either broke or about ready to break.This could be my problem with the solenoid ,I`ll have to clean it up and see whats going on there.I tried taking apart the solenoid to see if theres any corrosion in it but the 2 halfs wont separate.From what I can tell it looks clean.With heat and no shade its been difficult to get any diagnostic work done.So I`ll get up early am and do it.
     
  3. arfstrom

    arfstrom XS400 Guru Top Contributor

    Okay, I don't see a clutch switch on the diagram, the pic I took off of Craigslist doesn't' have it either, When you turn the key to "ON" my tail light comes on, the bottom two dashboard lights turn on, telling me there is no oil pressure, and then the bike is in neutral. The headlight high-beam indicator is on the tach gauge.

    one of the jobs of the safety switch is to ensure a safe start condition exist. allowing for a kick start, or estart

    I am got to go! later, good luck
     

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  4. Scorpio1963

    Scorpio1963 XS400 Guru Top Contributor

    So is there a way to ohms test on the solenoid and if so where would Put my leads from tester,Im assuming its the positive and earth lead on the unti.what kinda numbers should I be getting.I did a continuity test and it was just reading voltage from the Battery.If its good it should be making a clicking sound similar to a car solenoid or not?
     
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  5. Scorpio1963

    Scorpio1963 XS400 Guru Top Contributor

    Ok I found the procedure for testing it and ohms reading I should be getting.
    Ive heard you can wire the starter direct is there any confirmation on this?
     
  6. Scorpio1963

    Scorpio1963 XS400 Guru Top Contributor

    Yes I had found it earlier but we had storms and lost our internet.I tested it and it has all the symtoms of a dead solinoid.
     
  7. xschris

    xschris a lifestyle not a trend Top Contributor

    That would have been the first thing to test :wink2:
     
  8. Scorpio1963

    Scorpio1963 XS400 Guru Top Contributor

    I didn't have a reason to test it earlier because it was working,dont know why but it suddenly stopped working.:shrug:
    Also I asked this earlier but nobody answered can the starter be wired to the switch with out the solenoid,I have head you it can be done but I not sure what other mods have to be done to the wiring for this to work?Also if the starter puts out more than 30amps it wont work because it will fry the switch.Inot aware how many amps our starters put out?:shrug:
     
    Last edited: Jun 30, 2014
  9. MrStubb

    MrStubb XS400 Addict

    Be careful wireing the starter direct has it's problems. The solenoid is a high amperage relay switch and your starter button is not. You will cook your bike if there is any resistance from the starter. I did something similar with some old fog lights with out a relay and fried a few toggle switches before I discovered what a fool I was.
     
  10. Scorpio1963

    Scorpio1963 XS400 Guru Top Contributor

    Hello again iwas wondering if somebody can take a picture of how the starter solinoid is wired up?I know theres diagrams but its easier if I could see a pic.Ive had mine off for so long I dont remember how it was wired.Thanks.
     
  11. XSLeo

    XSLeo XS400 Junkie

    The starter draws amps, unloaded about 75 amps, with a load about 150 or so. Not exactly sure, don't have the specs in front of me. They will be in your repair manual.
    A starter doesn't put anything "out".
    You need a solenoid or starter relay, No switch that fits on the bars has the 75+ amp current rating.
    Try a different relay, Hummm a parts bike could come in handy about now huh.
    Leo
     
  12. If you don't get one by then I'll get in the morning.
     
  13. Scorpio1963

    Scorpio1963 XS400 Guru Top Contributor

    :shrug:
    A wired up bike would be nice to have.but a picture on how to wire my solinoid would be helpfull more than anything.
     
  14. Scorpio1963

    Scorpio1963 XS400 Guru Top Contributor

    Can someone please take a pic of this for me,is that difficult?:shrug:
     
  15. Scorpio1963

    Scorpio1963 XS400 Guru Top Contributor

    ok I took a pic for myself if some can help by showing me where the wires go it would be very helpful for me,Thanks
     

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  16. arfstrom

    arfstrom XS400 Guru Top Contributor

    Hehe, thats exactly what mines looks like now. here is an old photo, it doesnt really help, I think the one in the manual looks better than mine.
    This is from my photo bucket. The big photo here, is what is should be like. The other one, the one on the attachment list on the bottom, is more recent. since then I did the same thing.

    This is where I think things goes, on the modified pic you submitted. I think that is what your saying.

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  17. Scorpio1963

    Scorpio1963 XS400 Guru Top Contributor

    ok ran into another problem that's holding me up on the blue bitch.The connector wires to the neutral and kickstand relay have broken off or on the verge of breaking.I got some links on another thread that were supposed to help and while the products were close they don't quite match up for what im looking for.Heres a pick of what I need if someone can post a link of a store that sells these I`d be estatic.
     

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  18. TimBuz

    TimBuz XS400 Enthusiast

    I saw this place get posted up the other day http://www.vintageconnections.com/ they've got alot of good stuff, wish I knew about them before I did my wiring. If you cant find a plug exactly the same just get a 4 pin male and a female plug too match. Pretty sure any auto parts store will carry 4 pin plugs for cheap
     

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