Robsteeler66
XS400 Addict
Yeah, I'm on Coumadin too. I'm glad I'm done with the Lovenox(Heparin), I hated injecting myself.
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Back pain
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Robsteeler66
XS400 Addict
It sucks getting old, but it beats the alternative!
A slight update about my condition,I talk with my pain management specilist and nuoroloigist yesterday about alternitives to surgery.Theres none so I have a referal and a appoinment to go talk with another surgeon.Meanwhile my pain has got anybetter it continues to persist.
Well so much for talking to,a,surgeon,The one he set me up with to talk to is an hour and half away from where I live.
hour and a half is not so bad, just take the xs for nice ride on a good day
Wouldnt be a bad idea if the bitch was running but my back is keeping me from getting that done.I had this sharp stabbing pain in my lower to mid back yesterday so bad .Nothing phased the pain.I can already tell Im not going to have a good day today.
Finaly the last month or so my back hasnt been giving me much trouble but the pain moved to my knees instead.I can deal with that alot better than the back pain.Today I wake up and get out of bed severe pain stabbing me in left lower side again.Ironicaly this comes on the heels of one of my best nights sleep I have got in a couple of weeks.Surgeon calls earlier this am saying hes ready to see me.This is the same one thats an hour and half away.I told him Im not ready yet.
Cadapult
XS400J Medic
I've dealt with chronic back pain too. My problems were on and off for about 10 years;. I'd feel something slip in my back; agonizing shot of pain, then stuck in a chair for a couple days in serious pain unable to do more than hobble around. This happened 3 or 4 times a year. Then 3 years ago it happened again, but didn't ease up after 3 or 4 days. It got worse and worse, pain going from my back down my leg. While at work during this I realized my foot was paralyzed. Called my doc, who ordered an immediate MRI, and then consulted with a neurosurgeon. I was in surgery the next day. The surgeon trimmed three disks and cut away some bone to get pressure off nerves.
Since the surgery I've only had partial feeling/movement in my foot return, but the pain is gone and hasn't come back. If the doctors are confident and experienced, I'd go for the surgery. Living with chronic pain knocks the hell out of the quality of your life. If there's a chance to end the pain it might be worth the drive. I pray you can get relief.
Since the surgery I've only had partial feeling/movement in my foot return, but the pain is gone and hasn't come back. If the doctors are confident and experienced, I'd go for the surgery. Living with chronic pain knocks the hell out of the quality of your life. If there's a chance to end the pain it might be worth the drive. I pray you can get relief.
MotorPsycho
XS400 Enthusiast
I hate to hear that, buddy. I have a back problem, too. I have a bulging disc that developed after getting out of the Army. I lost nearly a hundred pounds to serve my country, but had to leave early due to an unrelated back injury, but I believe it made my back muscles weaker. After I left the Army, I ended up gaining about 50 pounds. I decided to do something about it, and ended up pushing myself harder than you should push a nearly 40-year-old back, and it caused the disc to bulge, which hurt like a MOFO. I was out of work for a year, had shots, and took so much pain medicine it was unreal. Then I finally took a shot that numbed my back enough for me to get up and do something. I worked my way back to getting a job and moving fairly regularly. What sucks is the first thing the back doctor said when he showed me my XRay was "surgery". The next word out of my mouth was BULLSHIT. Not on your life, buddy. I've heard WAAAAY to many horror stories about failed back surgeries, as well as repeat back surgeries.
As a matter of fact, my dad had the whole "rod and screw" bit done to him, and it failed to the point that they had to remove it and fuse his spine together in that area, which is what they should have done to begin with since it was so bad. My landlord had two back surgeries for bulging disc, and they told him that the next one (if he needed it) would be taking the disc out and replacing it or fusing his spine together. I could name off many more, but you get the idea. There's even a name for failed back surgeries: Failed Back Surgery Syndrome. And, according to statistics, more than 80% of back surgeries require one or more additional surgeries. I'll never have back surgery. But that's my opinion.
If I were in your shoes, and I partially am, I would explore EVERY available option before making a decision to go under the knife. Doctors have come a long way nowadays, but I still think that when you're messing with something as crucial as your spine, it's never good to mess with it in the first place.
Think about it like this: your spine is like the backbone of your bike, and every time you cut a piece off the backbone of your bike, it gets weaker, not stronger; what will eventually happen? Nothing good, that's for sure.
As a side note, there are lots of things you can change that will help, including your sleep position, your shoes, and even the amount of water you drink during the day that will help. Trust me, I tried it and learned the hard way.
As a matter of fact, my dad had the whole "rod and screw" bit done to him, and it failed to the point that they had to remove it and fuse his spine together in that area, which is what they should have done to begin with since it was so bad. My landlord had two back surgeries for bulging disc, and they told him that the next one (if he needed it) would be taking the disc out and replacing it or fusing his spine together. I could name off many more, but you get the idea. There's even a name for failed back surgeries: Failed Back Surgery Syndrome. And, according to statistics, more than 80% of back surgeries require one or more additional surgeries. I'll never have back surgery. But that's my opinion.
If I were in your shoes, and I partially am, I would explore EVERY available option before making a decision to go under the knife. Doctors have come a long way nowadays, but I still think that when you're messing with something as crucial as your spine, it's never good to mess with it in the first place.
Think about it like this: your spine is like the backbone of your bike, and every time you cut a piece off the backbone of your bike, it gets weaker, not stronger; what will eventually happen? Nothing good, that's for sure.
As a side note, there are lots of things you can change that will help, including your sleep position, your shoes, and even the amount of water you drink during the day that will help. Trust me, I tried it and learned the hard way.
As for now my back pain has subsided a great deal compared to how bad it was.I definately can relate to having the quality of life I once had.I also had a friend who had failed back surgery syndrome and it didnt help that the aids dropped him on the floor right after the surgery while trying to transfer him to a regular bed.The Good thing is Im only about an hour from U of M hospital which has some of the finest doctors in the country and use the most advance technics in surgery.I`ll be going down there soon to have a blot clot removed from my leg.I have heard alot of good things about accupuncture also so this is another alternitive I`ll be seeking before I have back surgery.
Your problems will never be cured. You have waited so long the nerve damage is probably permanent. Get the surgery now and the pain might go way. Doubtful the nerves will recover, will probably feel numb. You are out of alternatives. Find a good surgeon and quit taking advice from idiots on a motorcycle forum.
Idiots on a motorcycle forum
Whoa back up!.Were all people wether we ride on a motorcycle and on on a forum about fixing them.Some of us have back trouble and some of us dont.I have to respect those who have it ad the treatment they choose along with the opinions they offer.I know none of us who have back trouble enjoy dealing with the p[ain it brings or the changes it makes to quality of life we dont get.With the successs rate of 50/50 I`ll wait till I cant walk anymore before I have a surgery that may or may not help.
Whoa back up!.Were all people wether we ride on a motorcycle and on on a forum about fixing them.Some of us have back trouble and some of us dont.I have to respect those who have it ad the treatment they choose along with the opinions they offer.I know none of us who have back trouble enjoy dealing with the p[ain it brings or the changes it makes to quality of life we dont get.With the successs rate of 50/50 I`ll wait till I cant walk anymore before I have a surgery that may or may not help.This is an area that I am intimately acquainted. So you don't want a 50-50 chance of success. What percentage of success do your alternative methods guarantee ? Surgery is not a cure. It is the first step in feeling better. After surgery you will start physical therapy. Never again will you be a pill popping couch potato. You will have to develop and build muscle to keep you spine aligned. Daily workouts will be the norm. In a couple of years you may have some recovery in your nerves, yes it takes that long. Nerves are very slow to heal, if at all. Or you can keep going as you are now, absolutely miserable. Decide if you want a life through hard work or constant pain and addiction. Look at yourself in the mirror and decide if you have a pair or just a victims attitude.
MotorPsycho
XS400 Enthusiast
While your OPINION is appreciated, it's just that, an OPINION. There are many MORE stories out there of people who overcame back pain WITHOUT surgery than there are WITH surgery. It's completely idiotic to jump the gun and look for a CHEAP way out. Talk about not having a pair, real men can overcome pain with intelligence and hard work, NOT taking the CHEAP way and letting some hack whack away at your spine with experimental surgery that WILL, I repeat, WILL lead to MORE back surgery. All those things you mentioned, physical therapy, building muscle, recovery, that can ALL be performed WITHOUT surgery. I did it, and I know other people that have also, and are back to nearly a normal life. Back surgery is NEVER the answer, unless you're a doctor who wants to make a summer home payment. I have read about everyone from runners to bodybuilders that overcame back pain WITHOUT surgery. Sure, you will have to change your lifestyle, loose some weight, and do things a lot differently, but if you have surgery, you should do all that anyway. I was a pill-pppping couch potato, and I overcame that WITHOUT surgery, so there's proof already that you can overcome back pain WITHOUT surgery. The percentage of success with back surgery is slim to none. Read about it. Failed Back Surgery Syndrome. Not as smart and as easy a fix-all as you thought, huh? Psht...grow a pair, indeed.
MotorPsycho
XS400 Enthusiast
Spoken like a true "doctor"/quack/nutjob.
fixed it for ya.
I also deal with chronic back pain. I have scoliosis and my backs been bent and fucked up enough to where 1 night on a couch is hell. a sleeping bag is like 3 days of stiffness. ive been to a doctor and done the chiropractor thing (which helped) and its nowhere near as severe as what your going thru, but I self medicate with tetrahydrocannabinol, and it actually helps. back stiff from riding the rigid everyday? take .3 grams of OG Kush. 400 mile trip on said rigid? try Girl Scout Cookies, goes great with milk and real girl scout cookies. take as needed 4-6 times a day is average. DO NOT OPERATE HEAVY MACHINERY OR EQUIPTMENT...(CRANES, PLANES, TRAINS...etc)
only 4 months till January then I get my medical card. you should be able to get one. your in freakin Canada. idk if its different east to west but I got family up there....and im ranting. side affects include eating, ranting and increased laughter
MotorPsycho
XS400 Enthusiast
Spoken like a true "child of privilege" then...is that better? Things are easy for children of privilege. For a lot of people, they can't afford surgery, and if I took the time off to have surgery, by the time I got home from the hospital, I'd have no home to return...unless you want to donate one of your homes to the underprivileged.
I have medicade through the state of Michigan.It sucks cause any of the doctors that accept it are either pill pushers or wack and cut jobs.I have several things wrong with my back that are serious its just a matter of luck that I havent done anything to completely cripple me.Im on a 10lb weight restriction which that doesnt ever happen.I do 20lb curls almost everyday and also do stomach crunchrs that help keep everything lined up in my back.I do have severe nerve damage also.I dont trust most chrioprators although Im sure theres good ones out there somewhere.If I could find a surgerion that that doesnt want to put any more metal in me Id probaly go for it.
MechNewb
XS400 Addict
Im by no means a doctor, but my sister is a physical therapist. From what Ive learned talking to her about work, I think you need to go see a physical therapist. I believe it should be covered by your insurance.
They arent going to prescribe you any more pills but they will show you exercises to do that will help strengthen your back muscle and increase your mobility because I can tell you that neither curl, no crunches are working on your back muscles.
They arent going to prescribe you any more pills but they will show you exercises to do that will help strengthen your back muscle and increase your mobility because I can tell you that neither curl, no crunches are working on your back muscles.
